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Do you have electrical rates that vary according to time of day use? Y / N You might be interested in the US electricity price data kept by the Energy Information Administration. See http://www.eia.doe.gov.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Do you have electrical rates that vary according to time of day use? Y / N YES If you replied (N) then thanks for your time, that’s all! If Yes: is the lower off peak rate limited to one appliance (such as a water heater) (Y / N) NO, every KW/H consumed at off peak periode is billed at 60% of peak value What is the differential in price (per kWh) 40% less What is the off-peak period where the low rate applies? (eg: 12:01 am to 06:00 am)? 22:30 – 06:00 What currency? EURO Where do you live (State/Prov/Territory, Country)? France Are there particular conditions or limitations that are of concern or notable? NO, actually EDF does provides free advice installation for timer to Hot

Water heater. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Your comments: What’s your interest ? Would we know the results ? Thanks for your time, Cheers, Alan

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Do you have electrical rates that vary according to time of day use? Y / N If you replied (N) then thanks for your time, that’s all! If Yes: is the lower off peak rate limited to one appliance (such as a water heater) (Y / N) What is the differential in price (per kWh) What is the off-peak period where the low rate applies? (eg: 12:01 am to 06:00 am)? What currency? Where do you live (State/Prov/Territory, Country)? Are there particular conditions or limitations that are of concern or notable? Your comments: Thanks for your time, Cheers, Alan

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Makes no sense, how could Japanese goods cost much more in Japan if it is made in japan? A camera I own is 400 dollars more in Japan. This makes no sense since it costs much more to ship that camera to the US, pay freight+customs. Someone told me the reason this happens is companies actually raise prices at home and get together making  sure no one is undercutting eachother (ie a oligopoly) something US laws prevent. Others have blamed the arcane distribution system etc that pushes up retail price in Japan. While this is true (as reflected in the recommended retail price), the street price in one of the camera discounters like Big Camera is a lot lower, typically 40% less than RRP. Even that price is undercut by box shifters/net dealers. While the strong yen and weak $ makes Japanese goods expensive for US visitor, lowest street price in Japan is roughly on par with US online deals, sometimes less for things like lenses and other genuine accessories.

The trouble is that you do have to find your way to these retailers.   Not so easy if you do not know them, or where they are. I do notice that home-grown megaretailers are appearng everywhere and slowly dismantling the old distribution system.  It’ll be ugly for the mom ‘n pop shops.

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  Makes no sense, how could Japanese goods cost much more in Japan if   it is made in japan? A camera I own is 400 dollars more in Japan.   This makes no sense since it costs much more to ship that camera to   the US, pay freight+customs. Someone told me the reason this happens   is companies actually raise prices at home and get together making   sure no one is undercutting eachother (ie a oligopoly) something US   laws prevent.   I think the more complex answers here are valid, but the reality is that the product costs more because people are willing to pay more. Others can argue all they want about distribution systems, etc., and I’m in no real position to doubt them. But if consumers demanded lower costs, lower costs they would get. John W.

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When I lived in Japan (for 13 years until I moved to Thailand 2 1/2 years ago)

****** Rant snipped  Well, suffice it to say that a copy of Time magazine sells for $18.00 US in Japan and a bowl of ramen noodles can cost $6 to $8.   I don’t live there any more. ) Steve Kramer Chiang Mai, Thailand

****** And you won’t be in Thailand much longer either eh Stevie????  Things have a habit of catching up on you don’t they????

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Makes no sense, how could Japanese goods cost much more in Japan if it is made in japan? A camera I own is 400 dollars more in Japan. This makes no sense since it costs much more to ship that camera to the US, pay freight+customs. Someone told me the reason this happens is companies actually raise prices at home and get together making  sure no one is undercutting eachother (ie a oligopoly) something US laws prevent.

Lots of reasons. One of them is "dumping". They charge a slightly higher price in Japan in order to subsidize exports. Get enough exports to the biggest market in the world (US) and you can begin taking advantage of economies of scale to reduce your overall cost. The Japanese market is saturated in many of these goods so there is nothing to be gained by lowering prices. So keep the prices high in Japan in order to have leverage to other markets.

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Makes no sense, how could Japanese goods cost much more in Japan if it is made in japan? A camera I own is 400 dollars more in Japan. This makes no sense since it costs much more to ship that camera to the US, pay freight+customs. Someone told me the reason this happens is companies actually raise prices at home and get together making  sure no one is undercutting eachother (ie a oligopoly) something US laws prevent.

Others have blamed the arcane distribution system etc that pushes up retail price in Japan. While this is true (as reflected in the recommended retail price), the street price in one of the camera discounters like Big Camera is a lot lower, typically 40% less than RRP. Even that price is undercut by box shifters/net dealers. While the strong yen and weak $ makes Japanese goods expensive for US visitor, lowest street price in Japan is roughly on par with US online deals, sometimes less for things like lenses and other genuine accessories. Alec

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Makes no sense, how could Japanese goods cost much more in Japan if it is made in japan? A camera I own is 400 dollars more in Japan. This makes no sense since it costs much more to ship that camera to the US, pay freight+customs. Someone told me the reason this happens is companies actually raise prices at home and get together making  sure no one is undercutting eachother (ie a oligopoly) something US laws prevent. Lots of factors enter into the cost of an item.

They don’t either!! — First they gerrymander us into one-party fiefs. Then they tell us they only care about the swing districts. They they complain about voter apathy.  – Gail Collins

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Makes no sense, how could Japanese goods cost much more in Japan if it is made in japan? A camera I own is 400 dollars more in Japan. This makes no sense since it costs much more to ship that camera to the US, pay freight+customs. Someone told me the reason this happens is companies actually raise prices at home and get together making  sure no one is undercutting eachother (ie a oligopoly) something US laws prevent. Lots of factors enter into the cost of an item. Wow that took a lot of thought.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Makes no sense, how could Japanese goods cost much more in Japan if it is made in japan? A camera I own is 400 dollars more in Japan. This makes no sense since it costs much more to ship that camera to the US, pay freight+customs. Someone told me the reason this happens is companies actually raise prices at home and get together making  sure no one is undercutting eachother (ie a oligopoly) something US laws prevent. Lots of factors enter into the cost of an item.

Wow that took a lot of thought.

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Makes no sense, how could Japanese goods cost much more in Japan if it is made in japan? A camera I own is 400 dollars more in Japan. This makes no sense since it costs much more to ship that camera to the US, pay freight+customs. Someone told me the reason this happens is companies actually raise prices at home and get together making  sure no one is undercutting eachother (ie a oligopoly) something US laws prevent.

Lots of factors enter into the cost of an item. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Makes no sense, how could Japanese goods cost much more in Japan if it is made in japan? A camera I own is 400 dollars more in Japan. This makes no sense since it costs much more to ship that camera to the US, pay freight+customs.

US import duty for a 35mm film camera from Japan is 0%. Air freight is probably less than local shipping (a few dollars per kg). Ocean freight is basically free for something as valuable as a camera and it takes only about 10 days to the North American west coast. Someone told me the reason this happens is companies actually raise prices at home and get together making  sure no one is undercutting eachother (ie a oligopoly) something US laws prevent.

The retail system in Japan is very inefficient. Also, the Japanese price includes 5% VAT. The US price is typically quoted net of state sales tax (and the US does not yet have a federal consumption tax). Further, it’s hard to compare a 47th St. Photo with a Mitsukoshi..   Best regards, Spehro Pefhany — "it’s the network…"                          "The Journey is the reward" Embedded software/hardware/analog  Info for designers:  http://www.speff.com

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Makes no sense, how could Japanese goods cost much more in Japan if it is made in japan? A camera I own is 400 dollars more in Japan. This makes no sense since it costs much more to ship that camera to the US, pay freight+customs. Someone told me the reason this happens is companies actually raise prices at home and get together making  sure no one is undercutting eachother (ie a oligopoly) something US laws prevent.

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Makes no sense, how could Japanese goods cost much more in Japan if it is made in japan? A camera I own is 400 dollars more in Japan. This makes no sense since it costs much more to ship that camera to the US, pay freight+customs. Someone told me the reason this happens is companies actually raise prices at home and get together making  sure no one is undercutting eachother (ie a oligopoly) something US laws prevent.

freight and duty in the U.S. is quite low. Japan suffers from a multiple-layered  and inefficient distribution system.  It’s said there’s 7 middlemen, all making their cut, between manufacturer and consumer.  In the U.S., I would be it’s just 1 if you buy from a big chain (manufacurer’s U.S. subsidiary to big chain to you).

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Makes no sense, how could Japanese goods cost much more in Japan if it is made in japan? A camera I own is 400 dollars more in Japan. This makes no sense since it costs much more to ship that camera to the US, pay freight+customs. Someone told me the reason this happens is companies actually raise prices at home and get together making  sure no one is undercutting eachother (ie a oligopoly) something US laws prevent.

When I lived in Japan (for 13 years until I moved to Thailand 2 1/2 years ago) I rode a Japanese made Honda motorcycle. When I wanted to purchase a new exhaust system for this motorcycle it was cheaper for me to order it from "Dennis Kirk Motorcycle Parts" company in the US and have them ship it to me, than to buy it from a local motorcycle shop in Japan. This exhaust had been made in Japan, shipped to the US, sold by a US retail operation, shipped BACK to Japan, and was still cheaper, including what I had to pay for shipping, than buying it in Japan. The Casio watch that I used to wear, made in Japan, cost $150 US in Japan. I bought it in Key West for $70 US. No one is undercutting anyone. The problems arise from the distribution system that Japan uses for it’s local sales. There are no discounts give for bulk sales as all the links in the distribution chain are owned by the same kiretsu and funded by the same bank, also owned by the kiretsu. (Imagine that a kiretsu is the root of a tree. Every part of every item in the chain is owned, fabricated, and distributed by the kiretsu to itself.) It makes the machines that makes the tires and makes nuts and bolts that go on the trucks (that it makes) that deliver to the ‘middleman’ (also owned by the kiretsu,) who finally sell to the retailer who sells to you. And each link needs to make it’s own 100% markup so that it shows a profit at the end of the day. By the time the item reaches the consumer… Well, suffice it to say that a copy of Time magazine sells for $18.00 US in Japan and a bowl of ramen noodles can cost $6 to $8.   I don’t live there any more. ) Steve Kramer Chiang Mai, Thailand http://www.photoenvisions.com — "The voyage of discovery lies not in seeking new horizons, but in seeing with new eyes."  -  Marcel Proust

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On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:50:06 -0600 (CST), OLT…@webtv.net (GT "Tick") wrote: >ZZ, the old river cat has gone on his way, to eternally chase those >elusive vermin that he just couldn’t ignore although being well fed, >slim and trim.  He passed on laying on his (my) favorite blue pillow.

Aw Tick , I know that my heart will crack when Sidney ,’THE WONDER KITTY’ passes away. Mine and Frank ’s ( Sidney too!)  thoughts are with you and your lady. (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((  Tick ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))  b…@tulsaconnect.com

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>ZZ, the old river cat has gone on his way, to eternally chase those >elusive vermin that he just couldn’t ignore although being well fed, >slim and trim.  He passed on laying on his (my) favorite blue pillow.

So, so, very sorry your buddy had to go. I’ve been there more than once. There has been at least one (usually 2) felines in my life since 1965. There is nothing like belonging to a cat, and having that cat choose you, as your ZZ did you is something very special. May you get to the "smiling because it happened" sooner than later. Lisa K.

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sorry ’bout yer loss tick. that stuff sneaks up and digs a lot deeper than we might like to admit. best ed — ———————————————————————–   "The whole business of his life was in the plunder of his gaze…"                                                 Daniel Halevy on Degas | <include>ed’s 3d stuff | http://world.std.com/~ehill | 617-629-4625 |

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Tick My deepest condolences on your loss. We have two pets, a beagle-pug and a Norwegian dwarf "killer bunny"( think the Holy Grail : ) )  They are my buds….I consider it an honor to know such interesting and compassionate souls. Hang on to the memories. — Take Care : ) JulieD "To have one’s individuality completely  ignored is like being pushed quite out  of life.  Like being blown out as one  blows out a light." —- Evelyn Scott "GT "Tick"" <OLT…@webtv.net> wrote in message

news:27661-3E63B1EE-405@storefull-2357.public.lawson.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> ZZ, the old river cat has gone on his way, to eternally chase those > elusive vermin that he just couldn’t ignore although being well fed, > slim and trim.  He passed on laying on his (my) favorite blue pillow. > With great pain to us both, I watched him dwindle down from his fighting > weight of about 71/2 pounds to a 3 pound shell in this last month.  He > developed a respiratory ailment that we just couldn’t beat, me and him. > We tried everything (thanks so much Chris for your ideas) but nothing > worked, it was just his time I guess. > For those of you that aren’t familiar with ol’ ZZ you can see how we > came to be partners and a photo of him on my web site page 4. > It’s funny how two kindred spirits can become attached.  Before this I > really never cared much for cats, or I guess I should say, just never > gave them much thought.  I was a horse and dog man, cats were just > around, you know, like bugs ‘n’ turtles ‘n’ stuff. > When ZZ was young and even into his prime he followed me around like a > dog.  He loved riding in the boat and knew that at the end of the day > there would be fresh fish.  He loved to sleep in my wheelchair when I > was dozing on the couch and somehow knew I was changing.  It didn’t > matter to him, in fact, if anything, he seemed to want to spend more > time with me and less prowling the woods. > I took my provigil, willed myself legs I didn’t know I could muster, and > buried him on the hill beneath his favorite oak tree, the one that > harbored his nemesis, the fox squirrel he could never catch.  I covered > his grave with a 2 foot square headstone with an outline of Texas and a > lone star.  If ever there was a shining lone star, ZZ was it. > I’ll post a picture of it someday on his web page when I can bring > myself to get the 35mm out and get the film processed. > Well, enough, big ‘ol tough guy doesn’t have a water proof keyboard.  If > I’ve been > more of an ass than normal the last few weeks, forgive me, let’s blame > it on the meds. > Tick > *****Don’t Cry Because It’s Over…Smile Because It Happened.***** > Visit Me At "TICK’S PLACE" > http://community.webtv.net/OLTICK/TICKSPLACE

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On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 18:11:07 -0600, "Lynne" <Lynne_Da…@baylor.edu> wrote in alt.support.mult-sclerosis: >ZZ has some new friends now and I can recommend them to him if you’ll give >him the message next time you visit the tree.  Tell him for a good time to >look up Old Weird Harold.

Yeah, Tick, and if he wants a cuddly little girl cat, tell him to look for Spice. She would snuggle up to him and purr when he misses you. — Joan Beware Tommy the Troll

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"GT "Tick"" <OLT…@webtv.net> wrote in message

news:27661-3E63B1EE-405@storefull-2357.public.lawson.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> ZZ, the old river cat has gone on his way, to eternally chase those > elusive vermin that he just couldn’t ignore although being well fed, > slim and trim.  He passed on laying on his (my) favorite blue pillow. > With great pain to us both, I watched him dwindle down from his fighting > weight of about 71/2 pounds to a 3 pound shell in this last month.  He > developed a respiratory ailment that we just couldn’t beat, me and him. > We tried everything (thanks so much Chris for your ideas) but nothing > worked, it was just his time I guess. > For those of you that aren’t familiar with ol’ ZZ you can see how we > came to be partners and a photo of him on my web site page 4. > It’s funny how two kindred spirits can become attached.  Before this I > really never cared much for cats, or I guess I should say, just never > gave them much thought.  I was a horse and dog man, cats were just > around, you know, like bugs ‘n’ turtles ‘n’ stuff. > When ZZ was young and even into his prime he followed me around like a > dog.  He loved riding in the boat and knew that at the end of the day > there would be fresh fish.  He loved to sleep in my wheelchair when I > was dozing on the couch and somehow knew I was changing.  It didn’t > matter to him, in fact, if anything, he seemed to want to spend more > time with me and less prowling the woods. > I took my provigil, willed myself legs I didn’t know I could muster, and > buried him on the hill beneath his favorite oak tree, the one that > harbored his nemesis, the fox squirrel he could never catch.  I covered > his grave with a 2 foot square headstone with an outline of Texas and a > lone star.  If ever there was a shining lone star, ZZ was it. > I’ll post a picture of it someday on his web page when I can bring > myself to get the 35mm out and get the film processed. > Well, enough, big ‘ol tough guy doesn’t have a water proof keyboard.  If > I’ve been > more of an ass than normal the last few weeks, forgive me, let’s blame > it on the meds. > Tick > *****Don’t Cry Because It’s Over…Smile Because It Happened.***** > Visit Me At "TICK’S PLACE" > http://community.webtv.net/OLTICK/TICKSPLACE

 Tick,    I’m sorry to hear of ZZ’s passing – it doesn’t get harder then that…:-(         Kathy K.

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"GT "Tick"" <OLT…@webtv.net> wrote in message

news:27661-3E63B1EE-405@storefull-2357.public.lawson.webtv.net… > ZZ, the old river cat has gone on his way,

Dude, Ol-Tick, Im sorry…  After having lost our cat we couldnt bring ourselves to get another.  I broke down however and got a short eared 1/4lber norwegian angora future sweater rabbit.  Best thing I ever did.  He puts fear in the eyes of our Jack Russel Terrier.  Shes much to dainty to mess with something so fearsome.  Ol Max does like to chew the edges of books a lil too much though.  May have a tiny sweater with a chicken-like meal to boot if that doesnt rectify itself soon.  We call Max a "duel-use" rabbit.  He doesnt seem to mind his walking ‘hopping’ harness too much though.  Sorry you lost a buddy.  It always hurts. Rob

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So sorry about ZZ… I do so enjoy reading about her/him ( can’t remember at the moment) over and over again on your web page.. I’ve grown to love that cat a lot… dory

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Godspeed, ZZ. Tick, he’ll be back. They always come back. They love us, you know, in their fashion.

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{{{{{Tick}}}}} I can empathize and sympathize. Those little things that sneak into our hearts are the hardest things to get rid of. ZZ has some new friends now and I can recommend them to him if you’ll give him the message next time you visit the tree.  Tell him for a good time to look up Old Weird Harold.  He’s been there a while and I’m sure he has the squirrels, rabbits and yappy little dogs all scoped out by now. Big hugs and a few tears for you, baby.   – Lynne "GT "Tick"" <OLT…@webtv.net> wrote in message

news:27661-3E63B1EE-405@storefull-2357.public.lawson.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> ZZ, the old river cat has gone on his way, to eternally chase those > elusive vermin that he just couldn’t ignore although being well fed, > slim and trim.  He passed on laying on his (my) favorite blue pillow. > With great pain to us both, I watched him dwindle down from his fighting > weight of about 71/2 pounds to a 3 pound shell in this last month.  He > developed a respiratory ailment that we just couldn’t beat, me and him. > We tried everything (thanks so much Chris for your ideas) but nothing > worked, it was just his time I guess. > For those of you that aren’t familiar with ol’ ZZ you can see how we > came to be partners and a photo of him on my web site page 4. > It’s funny how two kindred spirits can become attached.  Before this I > really never cared much for cats, or I guess I should say, just never > gave them much thought.  I was a horse and dog man, cats were just > around, you know, like bugs ‘n’ turtles ‘n’ stuff. > When ZZ was young and even into his prime he followed me around like a > dog.  He loved riding in the boat and knew that at the end of the day > there would be fresh fish.  He loved to sleep in my wheelchair when I > was dozing on the couch and somehow knew I was changing.  It didn’t > matter to him, in fact, if anything, he seemed to want to spend more > time with me and less prowling the woods. > I took my provigil, willed myself legs I didn’t know I could muster, and > buried him on the hill beneath his favorite oak tree, the one that > harbored his nemesis, the fox squirrel he could never catch.  I covered > his grave with a 2 foot square headstone with an outline of Texas and a > lone star.  If ever there was a shining lone star, ZZ was it. > I’ll post a picture of it someday on his web page when I can bring > myself to get the 35mm out and get the film processed. > Well, enough, big ‘ol tough guy doesn’t have a water proof keyboard.  If > I’ve been > more of an ass than normal the last few weeks, forgive me, let’s blame > it on the meds. > Tick > *****Don’t Cry Because It’s Over…Smile Because It Happened.***** > Visit Me At "TICK’S PLACE" > http://community.webtv.net/OLTICK/TICKSPLACE

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ZZ, the old river cat has gone on his way, to eternally chase those elusive vermin that he just couldn’t ignore although being well fed, slim and trim.  He passed on laying on his (my) favorite blue pillow. With great pain to us both, I watched him dwindle down from his fighting weight of about 71/2 pounds to a 3 pound shell in this last month.  He developed a respiratory ailment that we just couldn’t beat, me and him. We tried everything (thanks so much Chris for your ideas) but nothing worked, it was just his time I guess. For those of you that aren’t familiar with ol’ ZZ you can see how we came to be partners and a photo of him on my web site page 4. It’s funny how two kindred spirits can become attached.  Before this I really never cared much for cats, or I guess I should say, just never gave them much thought.  I was a horse and dog man, cats were just around, you know, like bugs ‘n’ turtles ‘n’ stuff. When ZZ was young and even into his prime he followed me around like a dog.  He loved riding in the boat and knew that at the end of the day there would be fresh fish.  He loved to sleep in my wheelchair when I was dozing on the couch and somehow knew I was changing.  It didn’t matter to him, in fact, if anything, he seemed to want to spend more time with me and less prowling the woods. I took my provigil, willed myself legs I didn’t know I could muster, and buried him on the hill beneath his favorite oak tree, the one that harbored his nemesis, the fox squirrel he could never catch.  I covered his grave with a 2 foot square headstone with an outline of Texas and a lone star.  If ever there was a shining lone star, ZZ was it.   I’ll post a picture of it someday on his web page when I can bring myself to get the 35mm out and get the film processed.     Well, enough, big ‘ol tough guy doesn’t have a water proof keyboard.  If I’ve been more of an ass than normal the last few weeks, forgive me, let’s blame it on the meds. Tick *****Don’t Cry Because It’s Over…Smile Because It Happened.***** Visit Me At "TICK’S PLACE" http://community.webtv.net/OLTICK/TICKSPLACE

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Poor ol’ cat.  :-( I’ve grown attached to – and subsequently had to nurse, snuff, bury and mourn – more than any dog-man’s rightful share of cats, and it hurts just as much every time. Your own sig line is pretty apropos here, Tick.  When you’re done with crying because he’s gone, you can smile because he stuck around long enough to let you become yet another sort of inter-species friend. ((U))   M "GT "Tick"" <OLT…@webtv.net> wrote in message

news:27661-3E63B1EE-405@storefull-2357.public.lawson.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> ZZ, the old river cat has gone on his way, to eternally chase those > elusive vermin that he just couldn’t ignore although being well fed, > slim and trim.  He passed on laying on his (my) favorite blue pillow. > With great pain to us both, I watched him dwindle down from his fighting > weight of about 71/2 pounds to a 3 pound shell in this last month.  He > developed a respiratory ailment that we just couldn’t beat, me and him. > We tried everything (thanks so much Chris for your ideas) but nothing > worked, it was just his time I guess. > For those of you that aren’t familiar with ol’ ZZ you can see how we > came to be partners and a photo of him on my web site page 4. > It’s funny how two kindred spirits can become attached.  Before this I > really never cared much for cats, or I guess I should say, just never > gave them much thought.  I was a horse and dog man, cats were just > around, you know, like bugs ‘n’ turtles ‘n’ stuff. > When ZZ was young and even into his prime he followed me around like a > dog.  He loved riding in the boat and knew that at the end of the day > there would be fresh fish.  He loved to sleep in my wheelchair when I > was dozing on the couch and somehow knew I was changing.  It didn’t > matter to him, in fact, if anything, he seemed to want to spend more > time with me and less prowling the woods. > I took my provigil, willed myself legs I didn’t know I could muster, and > buried him on the hill beneath his favorite oak tree, the one that > harbored his nemesis, the fox squirrel he could never catch.  I covered > his grave with a 2 foot square headstone with an outline of Texas and a > lone star.  If ever there was a shining lone star, ZZ was it. > I’ll post a picture of it someday on his web page when I can bring > myself to get the 35mm out and get the film processed. > Well, enough, big ‘ol tough guy doesn’t have a water proof keyboard.  If > I’ve been > more of an ass than normal the last few weeks, forgive me, let’s blame > it on the meds. > Tick > *****Don’t Cry Because It’s Over…Smile Because It Happened.***** > Visit Me At "TICK’S PLACE" > http://community.webtv.net/OLTICK/TICKSPLACE

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Tiger playing with Phil’s boobies. — — — — — — — — — — Phil’s boobies belong to Amy, and I can’t see that threeway happening any time soon.

OK, make it Darren Clarke’s, then.

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OK gang, I’ve decided to go to Augusta for a practice round (I’ll solve the ticket dilemma when I get there).  I’ll be armed with at least three 35mm cameras and at least one DV camcorder.  So who or what would you like to see? Tiger’s new girlfriend and Amy Mickelson are two "automatics." Who/what else?

Tiger Woods helping you into a green jacket. Colin Montgomerie’s swing (I love watching him swing – fuck those who don’t like him).  Bonus points if he smiles. Vijay hitting a driver.  I went to the Colonial last year and watched a lot of driving range practice.  Other guys might hit it farther, but Vijay *looked*  and sounded the most awesome. CA Remove NoSpam to email me directly. Troll intolerant.  I took the RSG 2002 Pledge.

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Tiger playing with Phil’s boobies. — — — — — — — — — — Phil’s boobies belong to Amy, and I can’t see that threeway happening any time soon.   Larry Make more long putts It drives your opponents crazy

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Billy Casper was always one of my favorite golfers – how about some Casper swing shots? I’ll get one of old Billy coming out of the fitness trailer. "Hey, this ain’t the free buffet trailer!"

That would be the buffet with the buffalo steaks, right. B. J. Wilkinson

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Billy Casper was always one of my favorite golfers – how about some Casper swing shots?

I’ll get one of old Billy coming out of the fitness trailer. "Hey, this ain’t the free buffet trailer!"

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3-35mm cameras.  Don’t trust the 1V on its own??

Well some of the fools over at rec.photo.equipment.35mm refuse to look at anything not taken with a Leica so I’m taking an old Leica M3 with a 50mm Summicron lens.  I also just bought my mom a Yashica T4 Super D, which is a great little point-and-shoot that fits in your pocket so I’ll give that one a day in court as well.  It has a neat little viewer that you can see while holding the camera over people’s heads in front of you …. a handy feature at Augusta.  Similarly, my Sony Mini DV with the swivel screen is a Godsend as well, allowing some good videos to be taken in tight quarters.  I’ve gotten some decent swings of Tiger by holding the thing as high as I can over my head and shooting over the heads of the first two rows of people.  I might even try putting it on my monopod at full extension and getting an overhead shot of him.  Just hope he doesn’t whack it with his driver.

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OK gang, I’ve decided to go to Augusta for a practice round (I’ll solve the ticket dilemma when I get there).  I’ll be armed with at least three 35mm cameras and at least one DV camcorder.  So who or what would you like to see? Tiger’s new girlfriend and Amy Mickelson are two "automatics." Who/what else?

Hot Georgia Sorority Girls Gone Wild!

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OK gang, I’ve decided to go to Augusta for a practice round (I’ll solve the ticket dilemma when I get there).  I’ll be armed with at least three 35mm cameras and at least one DV camcorder.  So who or what would you like to see? Tiger’s new girlfriend and Amy Mickelson are two "automatics." Who/what else?

Tiger playing with Phil’s boobies.

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: OK gang, I’ve decided to go to Augusta for a practice round (I’ll solve the : ticket dilemma when I get there).  I’ll be armed with at least three 35mm : cameras and at least one DV camcorder.  So who or what would you like to see? : Tiger’s new girlfriend and Amy Mickelson are two "automatics." : Who/what else?

Billy Casper was always one of my favorite golfers – how about some Casper swing shots? B. J. Wilkinson

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: OK gang, I’ve decided to go to Augusta for a practice round (I’ll solve the : ticket dilemma when I get there).  I’ll be armed with at least three 35mm : cameras and at least one DV camcorder.  So who or what would you like to see? : Tiger’s new girlfriend and Amy Mickelson are two "automatics." : Who/what else? If you can get a picture of Hootie Johnson beating the hell out of Doug Ford, that would be cool. cb

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3-35mm cameras.  Don’t trust the 1V on its own?? Brad S.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – OK gang, I’ve decided to go to Augusta for a practice round (I’ll solve the ticket dilemma when I get there).  I’ll be armed with at least three 35mm cameras and at least one DV camcorder.  So who or what would you like to see? Tiger’s new girlfriend and Amy Mickelson are two "automatics." Who/what else?

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I like your first two choices, a lot… I’d like to see a good shot of number 12, if you can. — "My cat’s breath smells like cat food…" Ralph Wiggum

OK gang, I’ve decided to go to Augusta for a practice round (I’ll solve the ticket dilemma when I get there).  I’ll be armed with at least three 35mm cameras and at least one DV camcorder.  So who or what would you like to see? Tiger’s new girlfriend and Amy Mickelson are two "automatics." Who/what else?

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A picture of you giving Tiger some putting tips.  Just tell him you’re 100% in putt-off competions on Georgia greens. Bryan — Bryan Berguson RSG Roll Call http://u1.netgate.net/~kirby34/rsg/bergusonb.htm

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I’m with you on Tiger’s new honey. and my *selfish* request….  (-: Being a "lefty" – I’d like to see an .avi or .mpg (or 2) of Phil M’s swing from a few different angles. cy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – OK gang, I’ve decided to go to Augusta for a practice round (I’ll solve the ticket dilemma when I get there).  I’ll be armed with at least three 35mm cameras and at least one DV camcorder.  So who or what would you like to see? Tiger’s new girlfriend and Amy Mickelson are two "automatics." Who/what else?

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Cameras are allowed on practise days.

Also on practice days But you are 100% correct – You can video any of the players swings, take stills close up etc – Better to turn off the flash though!

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OK gang, I’ve decided to go to Augusta for a practice round (I’ll solve the ticket dilemma when I get there).  I’ll be armed with at least three 35mm cameras and at least one DV camcorder.  So who or what would you like to see? Tiger’s new girlfriend and Amy Mickelson are two "automatics." Who/what else?

DL III farting?  Oh yeah, you already got that one. Annika….the RSG paparazzi!  :-) — Washington State University "That shot is impossible!…Jack Nicholson himself couldn’t make it!"– Homer Simpson

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OK gang, I’ve decided to go to Augusta for a practice round (I’ll solve the ticket dilemma when I get there).  I’ll be armed with at least three 35mm cameras and at least one DV camcorder.  So who or what would you like to see? Tiger’s new girlfriend and Amy Mickelson are two "automatics." Who/what else? I’d like to see you get into Augusta with any sort of camera – unless it was some sort of teensy-weensy thing hidden in a pocket.  Good luck! Jaxie

Cameras are allowed on practise days. — David RSG Roll Call http://rec-sport-golf.com/members/?rollcall=sneddond email:  dsneddon  AT attcanada DOT ca

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OK gang, I’ve decided to go to Augusta for a practice round (I’ll solve the ticket dilemma when I get there).  I’ll be armed with at least three 35mm cameras and at least one DV camcorder.  So who or what would you like to see? Tiger’s new girlfriend and Amy Mickelson are two "automatics." Who/what else?

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OK gang, I’ve decided to go to Augusta for a practice round (I’ll solve the ticket dilemma when I get there).  I’ll be armed with at least three 35mm cameras and at least one DV camcorder.  So who or what would you like to see? Tiger’s new girlfriend and Amy Mickelson are two "automatics." Who/what else?

I’d like to see you get into Augusta with any sort of camera – unless it was some sort of teensy-weensy thing hidden in a pocket.  Good luck! Jaxie "Adversity reveals genius, prosperity conceals it." – HORACE

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Hello to the group, I need to locate a photo lab/service that is capable of photographing the delicate scratch pattern on a 6000-grit metal surface. The subject piece will be a bowl gouge which is used in woodturning to turn wooden bowls. This photo and numerous others will show the various sharpened surfaces on gouges from 60-grit up to 6000-grit. I have found several services that can photograph up to 1200-grit, but no luck on getting any higher. I assume I need a microscope/camera set-up, or maybe an electron microscope, but since I’m no pro photographer, I’m not sure. Any help you can give, or places to contact would be very appreciated. I have been looking unsuccessfully for more than four months. Thanks in advance for your kindness in helping if you can. Take care and all the best to you and yours! — Better Woodturning and Finishing Through Chemistry… Steven D. Russell Eurowood Werks Woodturning Studio Machinery, Tool and Product Testing for the Woodworking and Woodturning Industry The Woodlands, Texas

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello to the group, I need to locate a photo lab/service that is capable of photographing the delicate scratch pattern on a 6000-grit metal surface. The subject piece will be a bowl gouge which is used in woodturning to turn wooden bowls. This photo and numerous others will show the various sharpened surfaces on gouges from 60-grit up to 6000-grit. I have found several services that can photograph up to 1200-grit, but no luck on getting any higher. I assume I need a microscope/camera set-up, or maybe an electron microscope, but since I’m no pro photographer, I’m not sure. Any help you can give, or places to contact would be very appreciated. I have been looking unsuccessfully for more than four months. Thanks in advance for your kindness in helping if you can. Take care and all the best to you and yours! — Better Woodturning and Finishing Through Chemistry… Steven D. Russell Eurowood Werks Woodturning Studio Machinery, Tool and Product Testing for the Woodworking and Woodturning Industry The Woodlands, Texas

Have you tried a well equipped University? Bart

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I need to locate a photo lab/service that is capable of photographing the delicate scratch pattern on a 6000-grit metal surface. The subject piece will be a bowl gouge which is used in woodturning to turn wooden bowls. This photo and numerous others will show the various sharpened surfaces on gouges from 60-grit up to 6000-grit. I have found several services that can photograph up to 1200-grit, but no luck on getting any higher. I assume I need a microscope/camera set-up, or maybe an electron microscope, but since I’m no pro photographer, I’m not sure.

Do you have an idea of how much magnification you need?  What is a bowl gouge?  Is it a thin object that you can easily get onto a microscope stage under the objective? Basically you can mount a 35mm camera to a microscope tube through a T-adapter.  Alternatively, for quick and dirty results, you can shoot through the microscope eyepiece with a digicam. The first thing to do is get hold of a microscope and see if you can get the bowl gauge under it and view the detail you want through the eyepiece.  If you can do that, the next thing is figure out how to photogrpaph it.  If not, you might have to go to a SEM (scanning electron microscope) lab.  The 35mm newsgroup isn’t really the greatest place to look for that.  Try a web search.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I need to locate a photo lab/service that is capable of photographing the delicate scratch pattern on a 6000-grit metal surface. The subject piece will be a bowl gouge which is used in woodturning to turn wooden bowls. This photo and numerous others will show the various sharpened surfaces on gouges from 60-grit up to 6000-grit. I have found several services that can photograph up to 1200-grit, but no luck on getting any higher. I assume I need a microscope/camera set-up, or maybe an electron microscope, but since I’m no pro photographer, I’m not sure. Do you have an idea of how much magnification you need?  What is a bowl gouge?  Is it a thin object that you can easily get onto a microscope stage under the objective? Basically you can mount a 35mm camera to a microscope tube through a T-adapter.  Alternatively, for quick and dirty results, you can shoot through the microscope eyepiece with a digicam. The first thing to do is get hold of a microscope and see if you can get the bowl gauge under it and view the detail you want through the eyepiece.  If you can do that, the next thing is figure out how to photogrpaph it.  If not, you might have to go to a SEM (scanning electron microscope) lab.  The 35mm newsgroup isn’t really the greatest place to look for that.  Try a web search.

Some additional thoughts: (1) You can use conventional macro techniques, with increasing difficulty, up to about 20 or 30 times life size. (2) Photomicrography (normally, taking photographs through a compound light microscope) will take you from there to about 500 times life size. Beyond this, and you are getting into oil immersion objectives, and this might be difficult with your subject. (3) I tried to look up the likely grain size of the 6000 grit you mention, but all my reference works go up to 600 and no further for grinding wheels and abrasives. If you could post details of the grain size, and the magnification you require, it may be easier for us to help you. I would be surprised, though, if 30x photomacrography would not work for you. (Of course, the 6000 may be a typo – or are you using a Japanese waterstone or something?) (4) If this takes you into the realms of microscope use, you may find more fertile sources in the sci.techniques.microscopy newsgroup. You will find people there who do everything from low-power stereomicroscopy to extreme electron microscopy. It’s not as well populated as this NG though. (5) There are a couple of good Kodak books on photomacrography and photomicrography which may be of help. (6) Whatever you find you need to use, you are likely to find a *very* severe depth of field problem. Since bowl gouges are, AIUI, of circular (or similar) cross section, this will be a problem. You might find it easier to grind a flat (knife) chisel with the same grit to keep the subject plane flat – the point should still come over. Even better, a flat plate of tool steel ground to the pattern you desire would be perfect. (6) If using a microscope, you will need to use a metallurgical one. These have special objectives which shine the light down through the lens. A conventional transmission microscope will be fairly useless. You may however be able to use a (very intense) separate light source from the side. (7) The suggestion that you look for a university research lab near you sounds quite good to me; if you have no experience of these areas, you will be in for a steep learning curve. Alternatively, to have it done professionally might be rather expensive. Hope this helps a bit, sorry I could not give you an easy "send it to Bloggs & Co" answer. — David Littlewood

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Dear Readers: Polson has taken on yet another personality. BIOYA

since you somehow crawled out of my killfile, looks like you must have changed your ID too

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Yes, I believe that anything is possible on this newsgroup.

anything it would appear except you shutting the hell up !!!

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Did you really think I’d fall for killfiltering my own email addy? Now you are impersonating me–something else to report to your service provider–your parents are going to be pissed you got their service shut off! Hmm…  Funny that you use a totally anonymous newsgroup service. Matt Clara as in Clara.net which is Polson’s ISP, too. Interesting, to say the least.  I wouldn’t be surprised to find Polson make other such stupid mistakes.  Of course your anonymous postings make it impossible to dig any further, so you are safe (Polson?). Why did you inform me that you were adding me to your killfile if you didn’t want me to change my e-mail address?  Why else would you possibly think I would care, so why bother informing me?  I never understood why anyone would tell the person they are adding to their killfile.  Seems to defeat the purpose.  Think about it. So yes, I believe it is very irresponsible of you to drag Godfrey’s name through the mud and then to add a "My apologies to Godfrey if I am mistaken" to the end.  If you are not sure then shut-up and post nothing, though I know you know better.  Shame on you for taking such a cheap shot especially at someone who really has remained on topic. BIOYA And it goes on and on–how is it that you are better than these people you rail against?  In fact, you are the only one of these people now in my kill list.  Furthermore, considering that this BIOYA personality is used almost exclusively to rip on people in this group, it would seem to me an alternate personality created just for that purpose, quite possibly by an existent member of the group who feels a need to express these concerns. And, finally, listening to the tone of voice in the writing (and I teach writing at the Uni.), particularly of the few factual posts you’ve made to the group, you sound a lot like Godfrey DiGiorgi.  I’m not saying you are, only you have the temerity to do that, but sure sounds like to me.  If you are Godfrey, let me say, it was funnier when you were telling Tony "stuff it jerk" at every turn.  At any rate, you’ve wasted the last bit of my bandwidth that I will allow (speaking of the BIOYA personality, that is). My apologies to Godfrey if I am mistaken. Matt BTW, I know you know that every one of my posts indicate that what you claim here can not be true.  Your past contributions would indicate this.  I do not know what you have against Godfrey but bringing him up here seems like a cheap shot.  If you are not sure then do not say anything.  I admit that I’ve not taken much notice in the past as to why you would have an issue with Gofrey.  And, I don’t care. I’ve never participated in this group under any other name. I’ve been reading this group for more than four years and then it was a pleasure to use. There was a time when Polson’s contributions made up a fifth of the posts to this group and most of his posts were attacks, though not in the beginning.  He’s got almost 30,000 posts in a year and a half!, full of off-topic issues.  This group has continued to go down-hill since his participation and when Polson stands down then I will, too.  Besides, the small number of my OT posts in comparison are minute and if you can endure his then you can endure mine. Way to change your email to get back out of my killfile.  You’re definitely of the best sort.  As for Tony Polson, I’ve been attacked by him myself. I still value him way over anything you’ve contributed to this group.  As for Godfrey, I’ve nothing against him, which is evident from my original post. I don’t have to have anything against him to suspect him of attacking Polson, I’ve seen him do it before.  Now go away and please quit changing your email to get out of my killfile, or I will be forced to report your hositle and harassing activites to your service provider. Matt +—Posted via NewsGroups.Com, Your Premier Usenet Provider—-+ | Over 80,000 Newsgroups – All New Servers, totally Uncensored | +—Posted via NewsGroups.Com, Your Premier Usenet Provider—-+ | Over 80,000 Newsgroups – All New Servers, totally Uncensored |

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Yes, I believe that anything is possible on this newsgroup.

Does that include snipping? If so, you should try it sometimes… Just a hint… — _____)_____   /–v____

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I purchased a D30 and sent off for their rebate offer in December but have not heard anything from them yet. Is there someone reading this who also bought the D30 who can tell me how long it took to receive their rebate. TIA. eric phillips

I sent in mine around mid December and just got it last Friday (1/25).  UPS delivered it, but someone MUST be there to sign.  They tried 3 times to deliver to me.

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I sent in mine around mid December and just got it last Friday (1/25). UPS delivered it, but someone MUST be there to sign.  They tried 3 times to deliver to me.

Thanks Marc, this is a great help to me. eric phillips

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To say it makes no film transport noise is just inaccurate.  Of course it makes noise. It’s just more quiet than some… The shutter/mirror noise is completely normal. If you’re worried, go into a camera shop and click the shutters on a few cameras including another 7.  You’ll discover that none of them are "silent".

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi I am quite worried about the clicking sound of my camera. Many reviews say that film transport is really quiet and there is no audible noise in film transport. Nobody says anything about the shutter sound on clicking.(i searched on google) I bought a new one and the shutter makes noise almost as much (or a little more) than rebel 2000 (eos300). Is this true for all of us (the camera is new, and I inspected it and it looked as if nobody touched it). Or are my ears getting better day by day I guess not… 1/4000 shutter is expected to have some noise and I will not mind that, unless i am the lone man out with such an equipment Best Regards Animesh

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Hi I am quite worried about the clicking sound of my camera. Many reviews say that film transport is really quiet and there is no audible noise in film transport. Nobody says anything about the shutter sound on clicking.(i searched on google) I bought a new one and the shutter makes noise almost as much (or a little more) than rebel 2000 (eos300). Is this true for all of us (the camera is new, and I inspected it and it looked as if nobody touched it). Or are my ears getting better day by day I guess not… 1/4000 shutter is expected to have some noise and I will not mind that, unless i am the lone man out with such an equipment Best Regards Animesh

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To say it makes no film transport noise is just inaccurate.  Of course it makes noise. It’s just more quiet than some… The shutter/mirror noise is completely normal. If you’re worried, go into a camera shop and click the shutters on a few cameras including another 7.  You’ll discover that none of them are "silent".

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi I am quite worried about the clicking sound of my camera. Many reviews say that film transport is really quiet and there is no audible noise in film transport. Nobody says anything about the shutter sound on clicking.(i searched on google) I bought a new one and the shutter makes noise almost as much (or a little more) than rebel 2000 (eos300). Is this true for all of us (the camera is new, and I inspected it and it looked as if nobody touched it). Or are my ears getting better day by day I guess not… 1/4000 shutter is expected to have some noise and I will not mind that, unless i am the lone man out with such an equipment Best Regards Animesh

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is the Pentax FG Power battery Grip (AA) For ZX also for the Pentax Z1-p? i know that the name is different in the usa.

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is the Pentax FG Power battery Grip (AA) For ZX also for the Pentax Z1-p? i know that the name is different in the usa.

No, there is no AA battery option available for the Z-1 or Z-1p (PZ-1 & PZ-1p in the US). There is however a grip strap for the Z-1 series that adds a bit of height to the camera and looks like an AA grip, but isn’t. — John Preston, Lancs, UK. Photos at http://www.photopia.demon.co.uk

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      No, accd. to the inst sheet, it fits MZ-5/ZX-5, MZ-1-/ZX-10, MZ-50/ZX-50. But I put it on the ZX-30. Bob Hickey http://photos.yahoo.com/rollei711

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     No, accd. to the inst sheet, it fits MZ-5/ZX-5, MZ-1-/ZX-10, MZ-50/ZX-50. But I put it on the ZX-30. Bob Hickey http://photos.yahoo.com/rollei711

The instruction sheet is likely older than many of the new models that have since sprung up. I think it fits the whole range (including the MZ- M) except the MZ-S. — John Preston, Lancs, UK. Photos at http://www.photopia.demon.co.uk

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     No, accd. to the inst sheet, it fits MZ-5/ZX-5, MZ-1-/ZX-10, MZ-50/ZX-50. But I put it on the ZX-30. Bob Hickey http://photos.yahoo.com/rollei711

The instruction sheet is likely older than many of the new models that have since sprung up. I think it fits the whole range (including the MZ- M) except the MZ-S. — John Preston, Lancs, UK. Photos at http://www.photopia.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: fgloepnr.demon.co.uk:198.229.213.94 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 360027741nnrp-50:0752 NO-IDENT fgloepnr.demon.co.uk:198.229.213.94 X-No-Archive: yes Newsgroups: microsoft.test,alt.flame.niggers,rec.photo.equipment.35mm NNTP-Posting-Host: w088.z064003087.lax-ca.dsl.cnc.net 64.3.87.88 Lines: 1         Path: news.uni-stuttgart.de!dns.phoenix-ag.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online .de!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!deine.net!out.nntp.be!propagator-S anJose!in.nntp.be!news-in-sanjose!sjc-feed.news.verio.net!sea-feed.news.ver io.net!news.verio.net!msrnewsc1!cppssbbsa01.microsoft.com!tkmsftngp01!tkmsf tngp07!u&n&a&c&anceller Xref: news.uni-stuttgart.de control:40739090 This message was cancelled from within The Unacanceller’s glorious new software, Lotus 1-2-3 For Rogue Cancellers.

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is the Pentax FG Power battery Grip (AA) For ZX also for the Pentax Z1-p? i know that the name is different in the usa.

No, there is no AA battery option available for the Z-1 or Z-1p (PZ-1 & PZ-1p in the US). There is however a grip strap for the Z-1 series that adds a bit of height to the camera and looks like an AA grip, but isn’t. — John Preston, Lancs, UK. Photos at http://www.photopia.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: kplodfxf.demon.co.uk:168.206.242.69 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 876800130nnrp-46:0727 NO-IDENT kplodfxf.demon.co.uk:168.206.242.69 X-No-Archive: yes Newsgroups: microsoft.test,alt.flame.niggers,rec.photo.equipment.35mm NNTP-Posting-Host: commflt.fastlanetrans.com 64.3.87.88 Lines: 1         Path: news.uni-stuttgart.de!dns.phoenix-ag.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online .de!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!news.stealth.net!msrtrans1!msrnews c1!cppssbbsa01.microsoft.com!tkmsftngp01!tkmsftngp07!u&n&a&c&anceller Xref: news.uni-stuttgart.de control:40741562 This message was cancelled from within The Unacanceller’s glorious new software, Lotus 1-2-3 For Rogue Cancellers.

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Hi It has been recommended to me to use a piece of black nylon stocking over my lens in place of a diffusing filter. Has anyone tried this? If so where can I see some results? Many thanks Stephen www.stephenc.co.za

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You can also try using your breath for more subtle effect.

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Hi It has been recommended to me to use a piece of black nylon stocking over my lens in place of a diffusing filter. Has anyone tried this? If so where can I see some results? Many thanks Stephen www.stephenc.co.za

It works.  The results may vary depending on the stocking, lens focal length, aperture, etc.  Give it a try and see how it works for you. Tim

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    Also try a light colored stocking, it will give a more fog like effect.     It is best to try it out yourself.  There are a lot of differences between materials lens settings lighting etc.  You can also try adding a little petroleum jelly on a filter.  That allows you to get part sharp and part diffused.     An example of the effect is in my book "The Photographers Guide to Using Filters" …. Ok I did not write the book, but I do own a copy so it is "my book."    Please note that this author is not the same Joseph Meehan who is a professional author of Photograph materials. — Dia ’s Muire duit Joseph E. Meehan

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi It has been recommended to me to use a piece of black nylon stocking over my lens in place of a diffusing filter. Has anyone tried this? If so where can I see some results? Many thanks Stephen www.stephenc.co.za

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Yep, I’ve tried this and yes, it does work. Next time, I would probably try a lighter (perhaps skin colour) stocking as the dark stocking tended to put a very slight grey cast on the photo. I was going to scan in a photo taken with this technique, but unfortuenatly, we have just installed WinXP, and now our scanner doesn’t work…. damn MS. Anyway, just try it with a few shots on some consumer film and see what effect it has. Rebecca

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi It has been recommended to me to use a piece of black nylon stocking over my lens in place of a diffusing filter. Has anyone tried this? If so where can I see some results? Many thanks Stephen www.stephenc.co.za

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I was going to scan in a photo taken with this technique, but unfortuenatly, we have just installed WinXP, and now our scanner doesn’t work…. damn MS. Rebecca

Hey Rebecca, After buying a new computer with WinXP, I downloaded the patches to make my scanners work.  Both worked for a while.  Then WinXP stopped recognizing them.  Uninstall/Reinstall…work again…for a while. Uninstall/Reinstall…work again…for a while.   Hate to be the bearer of bad news.  I certainly hope you have better luck with this issue then I have. Tim

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      You have to be careful to get a very fine material. Most is way too heavy. Have to make tests. Bob Hickey http://photos.yahoo.com/rollei711

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    Also try a light colored stocking, it will give a more fog like effect.     It is best to try it out yourself.  There are a lot of differences between materials lens settings lighting etc.  You can also try adding a little petroleum jelly on a filter.  That allows you to get part sharp and part diffused.     An example of the effect is in my book "The Photographers Guide to Using Filters" …. Ok I did not write the book, but I do own a copy so it is "my book."    Please note that this author is not the same Joseph Meehan who is a professional author of Photograph materials. — Dia ’s Muire duit Joseph E. Meehan

Hi It has been recommended to me to use a piece of black nylon stocking over my lens in place of a diffusing filter. Has anyone tried this? If so where can I see some results? Many thanks Stephen www.stephenc.co.za

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Hi It has been recommended to me to use a piece of black nylon stocking over my lens in place of a diffusing filter. Has anyone tried this? If so where can I see some results? Many thanks Stephen www.stephenc.co.za

It works.  The results may vary depending on the stocking, lens focal length, aperture, etc.  Give it a try and see how it works for you. Tim X-No-Archive: yes Newsgroups: microsoft.test,alt.flame.niggers,rec.photo.equipment.35mm NNTP-Posting-Host: commflt.fastlanetrans.com 64.3.87.88 Lines: 1         Path: news.uni-stuttgart.de!dns.phoenix-ag.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online .de!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!out.nntp.be!propagator-SanJose!in.nntp.be! news-in-sanjose!sjc-feed.news.verio.net!sea-feed.news.verio.net!news.verio. net!msrnewsc1!cppssbbsa01.microsoft.com!tkmsftngp01!tkmsftngp07!u&n&a&c&anc eller Xref: news.uni-stuttgart.de control:40741008 This message was cancelled from within The Unacanceller’s glorious new software, Lotus 1-2-3 For Rogue Cancellers.

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It works quite well. Try it, experiment.

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